Click to see details Click to see details Click to see details Click to see details Click to see details Click to see details Click to see details Click to see details Click to see details Click to see details Click to see details Click to see details Click to see details Click to see details Click to see details Click to3 see details Click to see details Click to see details Click to see details Click to see details Click to see details Click to see details Click to see details Click to see details Click to see details Click to see details Click to see details Click to see details Click to see details Click to see details Click to see details Click to see details
Lionel Electric Trains Identification Guide Sub-Title
These pages are best viewed at 1024 x 768 x 32 bit monitor resolution
Bottom of Page

This Identification Guide for Lionel Electric Trains covers the "Post-war Era" only from 1945 until 1969.

black horizontal bar

The Lionel Trains Box CarsLIONEL TRAINS BOX CARS

black horizontal bar

State of Maine Box Car No. 6464-275

During the post-war period Lionel moved from all metal tin plate car production into using injected moulded plastic for these cars. During this transition Lionel settled on three main body types for their box cars. Many are under valued today because of lack of demand and others are over priced because of intense demand.
spacer
Below we’ve listed these cars by their series type:

spacer
BB 6014 SERIES BOX CARS
BB 2454 SERIES BOX CARS
BB 6454 SERIES BOX CARS
BB 6464 SERIES BOX CARS
BB AUTOMOBILE CARS

At the bottom of this page are indexed those box cars that we’ve researched listed in Numerical order.

black horizontal bar

The Lionel 6014 Series Box CarsTHE 6014 SERIES BOX CARS

black horizontal bar

The Lionel 6014 Series Box CarsThese 8-1/2 Inch Box Cars car are characterized not only by their length but by the fact that their doors were not operational. They were part of the body casting and were cast in a closed position. Often these cars are referred to as "Plug-door Box Cars" but that is inaccurate. Lionel’s predilection to assigning production runs as suffixes to their car numbers confuses proper identification of these cars. We’ve listed these cars in the table below with the suffix number that lionel used on the ends of the box.
spacer
See the Numerical Index for additional details about the individual box cars in this series.

Lionel Trains Van Camp's Pork & Beans No. 638-2361 Variation A

Available in many "Scout" and "O27" sets beginning in 1948, there would be four different body styles, and many cars that Lionel would put a slot in the roof. These cars would be available up until the final year of the post-war era in 1969.
spacer
Over the years that Lionel manufactured these cars they eliminated rows of rivets so that they were truncated close to the bottom and the top of the car.
spacer
Lionel eliminated these rows of rivets to ease the process of accommodating the graphics and lettering that were going to be printed on the sides of these box cars.

6014 SERIES BODY TYPES
Type 1
Type 3

Type 2
Type 4
Return To Previous Page

There would be two sub-types of the Type II body. Type IIa: has a solid catwalk. Type IIb: Has two plug marks that resulted from the change in the die that was needed to accomodate the No. 3357.


Lionel Trains No. 1004 A Variation Lionel Trains No. X1004 Variation A

The first of these cars that were issued was the No. X1004 "Baby Ruth." In 1948 and 1949 it came with the lettering outlined. The No. X1004(D) version issued only in 1948 would come only in an uncataloged set with a No. 1101 locomotive.

Issued again in 1951 and 1952 these cars would have the solid blue "Baby Ruth" lettering. Top of Page
Bottom of Page

Lionel 6014 Box Car Production Table

Return To Previous Page
black horizontal bar Top of Page
Bottom of Page
The Lionel 2454 Series Box CarsTHE 2454 SERIES BOX CARS

black horizontal bar

The Lionel 2454 Series Box CarsThese 9-1/4 Inch Box Cars all have the car number designation of X2454. Produced in 1946 and 1947, Lionel would use these cars to perfect the manufacturing techniques that would be used on the 6454 cars starting in 1948.

With new injected plastic molds for the bodies Lionel would install metal doors left over from pre-war production.

See the Numerical Index for additional details about the individual box cars in this series.

The Lionel Trains Baby Ruth Box Car No. X2454

Data on the Lionel X2454 Baby Ruth Box Car

Lionel 2454 Box Car Production Table

Return To Previous Page

black horizontal bar

The Lionel 6454 Series Box CarsTHE 6454 SERIES BOX CARS

black horizontal bar

Lionel Baby Ruth No. X6454 A Variation
spacer
This number '15900' is not the Lionel production number Here is the production number 'X6454' listed below the car data

The Lionel 6454 Series Box CarsThese 9-1/4 Inch Box Cars all have the car number designation of "X6454." Produced from 1948 until 1952, Lionel would use these cars to perfect the manufacturing techniques that would be used on the 6464 cars starting in 1953. With new injected plastic molds for the bodies and doors on later editions, Lionel would install Type 3b and Type 4 Staple-end trucks on most of the variations.
spacer
On all but the first "Baby Ruth" car Lionel would print out a large number on the sides which is often mistaken as their production number. We’ve indicated the large numbers that they stamped on the sides below in the chart under the column "CAR NUMBER."
spacer
The production numbers on all of these cars was "X6454" with various suffixes to designate each individual car. These suffixes are listed the "VAR." column below. Thus, the production number for a "Southern Pacific" car that has the "broken outer circle" would be "X6454(F)."
spacer
See the Numerical Index for additional details about the individual box cars in this series.


Lionel 6454 Production Table Top of Page
Bottom of Page

Return To Previous Page

black horizontal bar

The Lionel 6464 Series Box CarsTHE LIONEL TRAINS 6464 SERIES BOX CARS

black horizontal bar

The Lionel 6464 Series Box CarsThe 6464 Series Box Cars would like to welcome you to your worst collecting nightmare! Smiley
The Western Pacific No. 6464-100 with large feather

Collectors have identified over several hundred variations on these cars from different door types and rivet patterns on the sides, to the color of the paint and plastic that Lionel used in their manufacture. It is beyond the scope this identification guide to picture all of these variations. We will, however, show you most of the major ones, along with a few of the production errors that occurred along with references to the vairious body types shown below, so you’ll have an idea of what you’re getting into should you decide to collect these variations.

Readers who need more information are respectively urged to seek outside sources.
spacer
Beginning in 1953, Lionel would offer one or more of these 10-1/2 inch cars up until the last year of the post-war period in 1969.
spacer
See the Numerical Index for additional details about the individual box cars in this series.

black horizontal bar

6464 SERIES DOOR TYPES

The Single ID Block Door on the 6464 Series The Multi ID Block Door on the 6464 Series

All of the very early 6464 cars came with Single-block doors. However, in 1955 to accommodate the paint scheme of the new No. 6464-275 State of Maine car, Lionel developed the Multi-block door.
spacer
Single block doors would continue be seen on these cars through 1957 as Lionel used up existing stock. Multi-block doors would then be used on these cars for the remainder of the post-war period.

Because the doors are easily interchangeable collectors place no extra value in any of these cars because of the door type.

black horizontal barReturn To Previous Page Top of Page
Bottom of Page
6464 SERIES BODY TYPES

6464 Series Type I Body 6464 Series Type II Body

The first three columns are incomplete at the top. Column Column 2 is also broken at the bottom.

First seen in 1954. Columns Column 1 Column 2 and Column 3 are broken near the top as in Type I. Column Column 2 has three rivets at the top and two at the bottom. All of the rivets in Column Column 7 have been removed. There are two versions of Type II which have to do with lines on the roof. See below for sub-types.
spacer

6464 Series Type III Body 6464 Series Type IV Body

Production started on this type sometime in late 1958. Four rivets down from the top in Column Column 1 there is a break. In Column Column 2 has there are only three rivets at the top and two at the bottom. Column Column 3 has a break near the top. There are only two rivets at the top and the bottom in Column Column 7. Type III has visible interior roof ribs.

This type was produced starting in 1960. Same as Type III, but Column Column 3 has only three rivets at top and two at the bottom. Type IV also has interior roof ribs.

6464 Series Type IIA Body 6464 Series Type IIB Body

Return To Previous Page

black horizontal bar

The Lionel Automobile Box CarsAUTOMOBILE CARS

black horizontal bar

There were two different types of automobile box cars issued by Lionel during the Post War Era. The first smaller 9-1/2 inch cars were a carryover from the pre-war period.
spacer
The second and larger car was a mold change in the 6464 cars that would allow for a second side door. These began production in 1953. We’ve listed details about both types below and look in Numerical Index for additional details about the individual box cars in this series.

black horizontal bar Top of Page
Bottom of Page
The Lionel 9-1/2’ Automobile Box Cars9-1/2 INCH AUTOMOBILE CARS

black horizontal bar

These box cars were carried over from pre-war production with the substitution of post-war trucks.
spacer
They had a stamped-metal body with die-cast ends and a black metal ladder attached to the each side. Underbody details consisted of an air brake cylinder and reservoir, along with a triple air control valve.
spacer
See the Numerical Index for additional details about the individual box cars in this series.

The Lionel Trains Pennsylvania Automobile Box Car No. X2458 Variation B

No. X2954 Pennsylvania Automobile Boxcar is a Pre-war car that is made out of Bakelite and painted tuscan. Never made during the post-war era, it is most likely that dealers or individuals have removed the pre-war trucks and substituted them with post-war.


Production Table of the 2458 Series Automobile Cars

black horizontal bar

The Lionel Large Automobile Box Cars10-1/2 INCH AUTOMOBILE CARS

black horizontal bar

These cars originated with the mold that was used to create the 6464 cars that was modified to accomodate a second door. They began production in 1953 with the DARK BLUE Baltimore & Ohio No. 6468 and ended in 1958 with the No. 6468-25 New Haven. Even during this short period of time there were many variations that included one of the rarest of the post war cars.
spacer
See the Numerical Index for additional details about the individual box cars in this series.

The Lionel Baltimore and Ohio Automobile Box Car No. 6468 Variation A

black horizontal bar

Numerical List Title
BB 638-2361 Van Camp’s Pork & Beans
spacer
BB 6014 Bosco
spacer
BB 6014 Chun King
spacer
BB 6014-60 (6014) Frisco
spacer
BB 6014-85 (6014) Frisco
spacer
BB 6014-85F (6014) Frisco
spacer
BB 6014-100 (6014) Airex
spacer
BB 6014-150 (6014) Wix Filters
spacer
BB 6014-335 (6014) Frisco
spacer
BB 6024 RCA Whirlpool
spacer
BB 6024 Shredded Wheat
spacer
BB 6044 Airex
spacer
BB 6044-1X McCall’s Nestle’s Promotional
spacer
BB 6050 Libby’s Tomato Juice
spacer
BB 6050 Lionel Savings Bank
spacer
BB 6050 Swift Refrigerator
spacer
BB 6428 United States Mail
spacer
BB 6445 Fort Knox Gold Reserve
spacer
BB 6464-1 Western Pacific
spacer
BB 6464-25 Great Northern
spacer
BB 6464-50 Minneapolis & St. Louis
spacer
BB 6464-75 Green Rock Island
spacer
BB 6464-100 Western Pacific Feather
BB 6464-125 New York Central Pacemaker
spacer
BB 6464-150 Missouri Pacific Eagle
spacer
BB 6464-175 Silver Rock Island
spacer
BB 6464-200 Pennsylvania
spacer
BB 6464-225 Southern Pacific Overnight
spacer
BB 6464-250 Western Pacific Feather
spacer
BB 6464-275 State of Maine
spacer
BB 6464-300 Rutland
spacer
BB 6464-325 Baltimore & Ohio Sentinel
spacer
BB 6464-350 M-K-T Katy
spacer
BB 6464-375 Central of Georgia
spacer
BB 6464-400 Baltimore & Ohio Timesaver
spacer
BB 6464-425 New Haven
spacer
BB 6464-450 Great Northern
spacer
BB 6464-475 Boston & Maine
spacer
BB 6464-500 Timken
spacer
BB 6464-510 NYC Pacemaker
spacer
BB 6464-515 M-K-T Katy
spacer
BB 6464-525 M & St. L
spacer
BB 6464-650 Rio Grande
spacer
BB 6464-700 Santa Fe
spacer
BB 6464-725 New Haven
BB 6464-825 Alaska Railroad
spacer
BB 6464-900 New York Central
spacer
BB 6464-1965 TCA 1965 Convention
spacer
BB 6464-1967 TCA 1967 Convention
spacer
BB 6468 Baltimore & Ohio Automobile
spacer
BB 6468-25 New Haven Automobile
spacer
BB 6530 Fire Figthing Insuctrution Car
spacer
BB X1004 Baby Ruth
spacer
BB X2454 Baby Ruth
spacer
BB X2454 Pennsylvania
spacer
BB X2458 Pennsylvania Automobile
spacer
BB X2758 Pennsylvania Automobile
spacer
BB X4454 Baby Ruth
spacer
BB X6004 Baby Ruth
spacer
BB X6014 Baby Ruth
spacer
BB X6034 Baby Ruth
spacer
BB X6454 A.T. & S.F.
spacer
BB X6454 Baby Ruth
spacer
BB X6454 Erie
spacer
BB X6454 New York Central
spacer
BB X6454 Pennsylvania
spacer
BB X6454 Southern Pacific

black horizontal bar

BB Lionel Passenger Cars BB LIONEL BOX CARS BB Lionel Flat Cars BB Lionel Trailer Vans BB Lionel Military & Space Cars BB
BB Lionel Operating Cars BB Lionel Cattle, Refrigerator & Vat Cars BB Lionel Gondola Cars BB
BB Lionel Hopper Cars BB Lionel Tank Cars BB Lionel Cabooses BB Lionel Trucks and Couplers BB
spacer
6464 Box Cars pulled by a Trainmaster
spacer
BB Lionel Trains Identification Guide BB Lionel Locomotives BB Lionel Diesels BB Lionel Electric Engines BB Lionel Small Motorized Units BB
BB LIONEL ROLLING STOCK IDENTIFICATION GUIDE BB Lionel Accessories BB Lionel Track BB Lionel Transformers BB Master Index BB
BB Home BB Privacy BB Legal BB Search BB Site Map BB Contact BB


Copyright Tandem Associates
Top of Page